School board will add votes to public record
by Melody Dareing
Feb 18, 2011 | 6344 views | 8 8 comments | 10 10 recommendations | email to a friend | print
When The Polk County Board of Education meets on March 8, board members will reveal their secret votes to fill a seat on that board, an attorney said.

During a Feb. 15 called meeting, the board voted to fill the position using a secret ballot.

Georgia Press Association attorney David Hudson and Hollie Manheimer of the Georgia First Amendment Foundation said the hidden vote is illegal under sunshine statutes.

An attorney who advises the board disagrees.

Phil Hartley, of Harben and Hartley in Gainesville, said the voting method is not stipulated by law.

“There is nothing under the Open Meetings Act itself that directs a board member in the manner to vote,” Hartley said.

He said the circumstances of this vote, which ended with the appointment of Tim Turner to a board seat vacated earlier this year by John Stone, made the vote entirely legal.

Nevertheless, Hartley said board members plan on revealing their votes for the public record during the next board meeting. The attorney said they are going to vote to amend the minutes reflecting how each member voted in the appointment.

Hartley said he sees no need for any further action.

“I don’t believe there is any requirement to redo their votes,” he said. “I see nothing in the Open Meetings Law requiring board action.”

Cedartown attorney W. Wright Gammon Jr. said a possible lawsuit challenging the board’s action is temporarily on hold to give the board an opportunity “to rescind the secret vote.”

Grady McCrickard, who took over as school board chairman in January, said Wednesday he tried to avoid problems with the vote beforehand by talking with Hartley about what procedures could be used in the vote.

“The reason for me contacting the attorney beforehand was I wanted to be upfront and above board,” McCrickard said.

Hartley confirmed he did talk to McCrickard prior to the vote, but said he couldn’t offer any details because of attorney-client privilege.

See related stories:

Local attorney upset with Board of Education

and

Attorneys: Polk BOE secret ballot violates Open Meetings Act

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Educator1963
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February 23, 2011
I lost my job as a teacher after working for this school system over 15 years by a bogus vote on a resignation that I had not offered. I had been out of work since October 25 due to illness and surgery. I was harassed the entire time and intimidated by threats of termination supposedly because my students needed their regular teacher and not a sub, but nearly a month later there is still a sub in my classroom. When my doctor released me to return to work Mr. Williams would not accept it without my doctor certifying that I would not have to be absent anymore. Of course, that was a ludcirous demand and my doctor would not do it. I was told I had the choice of resigning or being terminated. I emailed Mr. Williams and sent a copy to all board members a week before the regular board meeting asking what else I could do to return to work. I told him that if he would not accept anything else I would have to resign because I did not want a termination on my record. He used that email that specifically stated that I wanted to return to work as soon as possible as a resignation and voted me out that very evening without him or any board member even responding to me first! However, the best part was that I found out I no longer had a job when I had to contact my health insurance company. Yet Richie Haney, after just a short time with PSD, can get charged with felonies involving his job as shop teacher and instead of losing his job he is simply transferred to the transportation department. Is there no sense of justice, fairness or simply respect for employees in this school system?
TAXPAYER2011
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February 22, 2011
shady bussiness dealings in good ole cedartown

parents bussiness leaders and 2 teachers should be on board not some back room bar vote that was seceret

only reason some people go to church is for bussiness

church is the oldest form of bussiness

i say we wipe slate clean and vote fresh ones in

it is up to us to vote them in an out

AzaleaLover
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February 22, 2011
Baseball mom wrote: "The definition of insanity is to repeat the same actions and expect different results."

Absoutely correct. To that I will add another definition of insanity: putting teachers on the school board.

We need parents on the school board, whose focus is the education of children. We need business people on the school board, whose focus is running the school system according to a budget. We need people on the school board who know the difference between needs and wants.

The taxpayers cannot support more of the school board's wants. This is a school board whose members (some of them, at least) went to every committee meeting whether or not they were on the committee. When the ruling was made that board members would only be paid for committee meetings IF THEY WERE ASSIGNED TO THAT COMMITTEE, THEY STOPPED GOING. So tell me they were interested. Tell me they were concerned. Tell me they were interested in anything other than the pay for yet another committee meeting.

What does the Polk County Board of Education cost the taxpayers? What do we get out of the Board of Education? It would be good to know the answer to the first question, and it would be good to evaluate the answers to the second.
Forwardprogress
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February 21, 2011
The comments on this subject continue to amaze me. The passing of judgement with no knowledge of the people involved is absurd. Mr. Williams works for the Board, not vice versa. It is not his responsibility to ensure that the vote takes place in the correct manner.

I know Mr. Turner and I assure you that he has tremendous support in this community. Tim, you may place YOUR sign in my yard whenever you like.

My comments on this subject may lead you all to assume things about my demographic makeup, and you would be incorrect. Non-issue.
wish2010
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February 21, 2011
In Business management classes one learns of "The Peter Principle." This principle states that in every organization there are people promoted until they reach their level of incompetency and there they remain. I think Mr. Williams was a fairly good principal but is far out of his league as Superintendent. Mr. Hartley should still be chasing ambulances in Hall county and in no way giving legal advice to the Polk county school board or the sheriff's office.
eatlovepray
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February 20, 2011
I agree with baseballmom. Do we not all recall the report on the local radio station the night John Stone ( a great Board member I might add) resigned? It stated there was a heated discussion between Board members and the Superintendent about some Board members getting info from the Superintendent's office before Board meetings and others not receiving any info. Seems Marvin stacks the deck before the Board meetings. Let me see, I understand Mr. Turner attends the same church as Marvin. What a good choice! Another Board member in Marvin's back pocket. Mr. Thaxton would you like to share how Marvin moved your wife from a teaching position that she loved to a less desireable position at another school to show you that you would vote and support what he told you to. Oh by the way, when Mr. Thaxton began bowing to Marvin, miraculously his wife was moved to a desireable teaching location! We know the Board members who have the best interest of the school children at heart, they voted for the most qualified applicant. Wouldn't be surprised if the school system is once again under the SACS radar.
oldhippie
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February 19, 2011
Am I correct in presuming that one of the requirements to fill the vacancy was that the person had to live in the correct district?

I don't know. Just curious.
baseballmom32
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February 19, 2011
I would welcome not only having the votes revealed, but I would also like to see the resumes and qualifications of all the candidates. If this gentleman is the less qualified individual, as I understand that he is, then I plead for a more qualified candidate to run against him at the next election and you can put a sign in my yard. Something is very fishy about this whole thing. I certainly hope this is not another case of "follow the leader" on the part of this school board. It is time for this board to step up and do the right thing for the children of Polk County. The definition of insanity is to repeat the same actions and expect different results. It is time for an overhaul of the upper administration in this system. We owe it to our children.
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